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This is a transcript from the DOJ OJP's Justice Matters podcast from Second Chance Month, April 2022. The BJA Director of Criminal Justice Innovation, Development, and Engagement meets with Chris Poulos—lawyer, professor, former White House intern, Director of Person-Centered Services for the Washington State DOC, and formerly incarcerated person/person with lived experience. The two discuss Chris's position within the WA DOC, challenges he's come across in Washington reentry and challenges in reentry in general, successes in Washington reentry and how to measure progress, and how his lived experience impacts his work. As it relates to HEP, they discuss different initiatives/programs that Washington has implemented within its facilities around job and trade skills.


